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Chainsaw
Sapodilla
USA
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 Posted - 11/19/2004 : 14:47:55
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This is an intro I wrote in a report on Rome and the decline and subduction of the Latin language, though it is not entirely dead. I just noticed that etc is short for et cetera, it means in latin and the rest. Honestly latin is going to be the death of me i.e. etc. and the fact that my dreams come in latin now. *shiver*
Here goes.
Rome, the eternal city of the seven hills. So much pain and suffering had been wrought upon the world by so simple a thing as the senate. Thousands killed. Thousands more had been injured or permenantely scarred, mentally or physically, in the service of SPQR. Romans fought for ideals. Ideals that would lead to an Empire that would last 294 bloody years at its peak. Romans lived under the impression of one, Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, translated literally from Latin means, It is a sweet and seemly thing to die for ones country. And many did. Funny something in Latin means so much more than in English. In the Crusades God Wills It, wan't inspirational enough. But Diues Vulta! resulted in more courage than you would imagine.When Rome was captured in 390 b.c.by Brennius the Gaul, Vae Victis was their slogan. Though they knew barely a stitch of Latin. This is an overview of Rome, and of the language they left. One would think that an Empire as vast as Rome would leave a distinct impression in modern languages. And it does, somewhat. Although many languages have Latin influences, Latin is still considered a dead language. Why? When so many other more difficult and cruder languages survive, was the romance language forgotten? This will also be examined.
Waddaya think? Theres probably a few typos, but thats not important at the moment, just the content. Some of it seems to get a little irrelevant. What do you think?
Dugan I'd like your input, one Irishman to another. |
INCOMPETENCE: When you earnestly believe you can make up for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there is no end to what you can't do. |
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volvic
Moderator
United Kingdom
390 Posts |
Posted - 11/20/2004 : 04:01:20
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Hi
It looks good, but I'll have a thorough look and get back to you.
Christine |
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Fay
Administrator
Bahamas
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Posted - 11/23/2004 : 17:42:43
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Hi Chainsaw
You could develop this into a very interesting article. It has potential. Are you into market study yet? Very important. Do some research for a good paying market, find a suitable publication, finish the article and submit it!
Best wishes,
Fay
P.S. As a student in the U.S. equivalent of high school, I had just started to like Latin when it was discontinued! Latin was said to be a "dead language"! I was so disappointed 
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Chainsaw
Sapodilla
USA
43 Posts |
Posted - 11/23/2004 : 18:57:42
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I write for enjoyment. Or for school never for money. So far my released works have attacted enough criticism to discourage any further public writing. Waking up at 3 in the morning to answer phone calls is hardly a fun thing to do. Development does help since I don't do research on the things i write its all from personal knowledge. I also have not studied for a test in oh three years. But Im aceing my classes. Sometimes i wonder that if i tried really hardwhat could I accomplish. Well I do greatly appreciate your input. I must also extend my thanks to Dugan for accidently showing me this site.
Chainsaw |
INCOMPETENCE: When you earnestly believe you can make up for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there is no end to what you can't do. |
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volvic
Moderator
United Kingdom
390 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2004 : 12:51:07
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Once again your knowledge is superb - you clearly know your stuff and your passion for it comes over in your writing.
When I was writing essays, I often used to start with something abstract like a quote. This acted as a hook to get my tutors reeled in. It seemed to have worked as they said my essays were entertaining, (although that wasn't my main intention).
My only criticism is that it might be too long for an intro. but it depends on your brief.
Good work
Christine
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anteagua
Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/26/2004 : 14:15:56
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Hi Tyler,
I mentioned to my husband that you wrote about Roman History and the Latin language. He said he took Latin at school ,in England, and thoroughly enjoyed it.
There is( or was?) a magazine called Historic Traveler. They print articles on historical places and sites where visitors can see where history was made. The e mail is ht@cowles.com
I guess you could look up magazines on the internet and find out what's out there. Your knowledge is vast and it would be a shame to let it go unread!!!!
Best,
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Chainsaw
Sapodilla
USA
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Posted - 11/26/2004 : 14:22:13
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Thanks I'll get to it soon. Right now I'm back to writing a book I haven't touched in four years. This site has given me back some of my fire. |
INCOMPETENCE: When you earnestly believe you can make up for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there is no end to what you can't do. |
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anteagua
Moderator
United Kingdom
987 Posts |
Posted - 11/26/2004 : 14:33:17
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Hi Tyler,
I'm hoping it will still be in publication!!!! Good luck with that and your"four year old book!"
Best,
Barbara
Fay, I got the e mail and details from the old 1999 Writer's Market book you gave me in the Bahamas!!!! Thought you might get a kick out of that!!!I've been investing in the Writers' & Artists' Yearbooks over the last few years. |
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Mike Broemmel
Mango
USA
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Posted - 11/26/2004 : 16:17:37
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Alas, I appear -- as I do from time to time -- as the Specter of Doom...I have a bit of a stiff (although important) comment.
I've elected never to write much about language or linguistics, historical or otherwise. I wrote an essay once a few years back on passive voice -- but, it was satirical at that...
I find that when we elect to write about language we face a more significant responsibility to use language correctly (and universally so) before embarking on such an expedition. Please bear in mind that I do not intend to be hurtful or harsh. I like your concept, of course. But, in pursuing it, I think you've taken on the significant supplemental task of making sure that all of your own language ducks are well in order.
Good luck with your efforts.
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Chainsaw
Sapodilla
USA
43 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2004 : 07:00:13
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| I am quite sure that I have enough understanding of the language to stick with the quotes above. Again I wrote this in about five minutes so chances are I messed up in a few areas. I will say I was amazed at how much people have messed up Latin. Like Vae Victis. It is called vae victus. But victus is a nominative singular 3rd declention noun. So Victis is the proper case i.e. genetive singular 3rd declention. The genetive case is ment to show possesion. Hence woe 'to' the victors. Brennius used it as an insult to the Romans. Romans adopted it themselves later to gloat to their slaves and people they conquered. |
INCOMPETENCE: When you earnestly believe you can make up for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there is no end to what you can't do. |
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real stumped08
Sapodilla
37 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2004 : 15:27:33
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hey tyler this looks very good. I have a few sugestions though.
try using word for numbers i find it easier to follow. and yess you are verry intelegent and have a great knowledge of ancient cultures. but a little extra suding for the details can improve anything.
keep at it
That idiot from anc.history class
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Bificus
Moderator
USA
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Posted - 11/29/2004 : 16:58:19
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Hi Tyler,
Dugan made a good suggestion with using extended format for numbers, but I feel I should clarify it just a bit. Single digit numbers should almost always be written out in words, or extended format as it's called, but normally you don't want to write out numbers with two or more digits unless the circumstances especially call for it.
Example: "22 men raced towards Norrin, their homeland for over 1000 years."
It should be written: "Twenty-two men raced towards Norrin, their homeland for over a thousand years."
Hope this helps!
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A pat on the back for a job well done is all well and good, but it causes one's abilities to grow stagnant. The fear of loss may mean no loss, but it also means no gain. If one's abilities are to continue to grow, they must know where they need to improve.
~Chris Riggs |
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Mike Broemmel
Mango
USA
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Posted - 11/29/2004 : 17:19:11
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Sorry...I feel the need to clarify...I wasn't referring to the Latin in the article. I perfectly understand how difficult Latin can be to use in proper form in this day and age. I guess I was more concerned about the perils of having to be on your toes with the proper use of English in an article on language.
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